i spoke to a woman in nevada who has an advanced stage of cancer, and she was told by her county hospital that they couldn't treat her because a hold had been blown in the state budget. what do you say to those people? >> well, i got into economics because i wanted to make things better for the average person. when i see a job loss number of 650,000, like we saw last month, i know that's not just a number. that's 650,000 lives that have been disrupted, families that have had to move or take children out of school, houses that may be in danger of foreclosure. i know something about what people are going through. >> and that makes it all the more outrageous when he hears of financial firms handing out perks and bonuses after they've taken bailout money. >> the era of this high living, this is over now, and that they need to be responsible and use the money constructively. >> and you would say what to those bankers right now in this interview? i'd say that their job right now is to find a way to make loans to creditworthy borrowers, to get their banks back on the path of making good loans, s